Monday, October 22, 2012
The CTC is at it again
Monday, April 16, 2012
The CTC Charity Proposal and Vote

Tuesday, January 10, 2012
How the charity rejection is seen in Chester
Jeff
Monday, January 09, 2012
Rejection Letter - a bit more legible
For those with an interest, here is a link to a more legible copy of the Charity Commission's rejection letter. Click twice on the + magnifier to make it much better. I have highlighted a number of paras in red.
Jeff
Thursday, January 05, 2012
Rejection of CTC Application for Charitable Status

The Chairman and Chief Executive have been fighting what I consider to be a discreditable and determined rearguard action to conceal from members the comprehensive rejection of the CTC's case and disguise the importance of this outcome. Their duty is to answer to the membership and keep us informed. However, they have steadfastly refused to publish the contents of the Charity Commissioners' rejection letter.
Thanks to a Freedom of Information request to the Charity Commission, the content of the letter detailing the reasons for rejection is now available for all to read, see link:
CC's Rejection Letter to CTC request for registration as a charity in England and Wales. (see pages 2 and 4)
Kevin Mayne's gloss on October 25th was:
"...it's certainly not something I assumed we would be putting on the web site, most members have told us they are rather bored with the internal workings of CTC...... if we need to make some changes to smooth our way past the Commission we will do so in due course."
IF??? Does he not understand what the letter says, or is he trying desperately to disguise its importance?
It is quite clear that the Commission sees the CTC as essentially a Members' Club that also indulges in politics. Hardly surprising, since that is what it is. It cannot understand why the application has been made in the first place. The application for registration as a charity has been unambiguously rejected.
The Charity Commissioners recognise that the CTC already has a charitable arm and their rejection letter states: "..the Club itself is not established for exclusively charitable purposes for the public benefit. It is a members' organisation established to promote the interests of its members and provide them with benefit. It is not therefore established for exclusively charitable purposes for the public benefit."
How much clearer could that be?
Not the End of the Story
However, the CTC also made an application for registration as a charity to the Office of the Scottish Charity Regulator. This application was accepted in Scotland on 29 August (and not reported to members at the time). What therefore, is the constitutional status of the CTC Club in England and Wales?
The technical term is 'a mess'! We now really know where we stand, don't we? No doubt the CTC will be appealing against this decision. With Kevin Mayne's imminent departure, who now will inherit this poisoned chalice?
Jeff
Sunday, April 10, 2011
Charity Vote - John Meudell resigns from CTC National Council
Your District Committee opposes the proposed conversion of the CTC into a full charity. You can still oppose the conversion by voting against Motion 1 on the voting form. Do not forget to put your signature in box 2a (beneath your membership number) and put a X in the appropriate box for Motion 1 in section 3, headed Charity Vote - Direct your proxy how to vote. The other blank columns are for family members, who may wish to vote differently from you.Don't forget to vote on Motions 2 - 9 on the back of the page - and don't throw it away!
Please contact me if you would like to discuss.
Comment to follow.
Jeff
Saturday, December 18, 2010
Charity Debate - Message from your National Councillors

The Chairman of the National Council is refusing to allow this message to be sent to their constituents without an accompanying message from him.
Draw your own conclusions!
Here is the message that the Chairman found so threatening that it could not be issued without a parental warning:
Dear Members
As you may be aware, when you receive your copy of ‘Cycle’ this month it will be accompanied by a yellow sheet of paper. This sheet is a ballot paper and members are being asked to vote again on a motion that was put to the AGM in May.
You are being asked to vote again on Motion 8 – which is proposing that the Club be converted into a charity and merged with the CTC Trust. This motion was narrowly passed at the AGM, after the Chair of Council used his discretionary proxy votes to push it through. Prior to the Chair casting his discretionary votes the motion had been lost on the directed votes of the members.
This re-run of the vote has been forced upon Council by the action of ordinary members who were dissatisfied by the way that the vote at the AGM was handled and by the unbalanced view of the proposals which had been put forward by Council prior to the AGM. Contrary to what is implied in some of the messages currently being put out by those supporting Motion 8, the use of the Article 36 procedure to call for a re-vote is perfectly legitimate and proportionate, and it is a valuable protection for members’ interests enshrined in the CTC’s constitutional documents. Only 200 members’ signatures are required to trigger a re-vote under Article 36 – and over 600 members’ signatures were gathered in a very short space of time.
Before the AGM in May, we made it clear that we did not support the proposal outlined in Motion 8 and we encouraged you all to vote against it – and we regret that since the AGM nothing has happened to change our views on the matter. Unfortunately, Council has not fully grasped the opportunity arising after the AGM to put things in order within the existing structure.
We would urge all members to vote against Motion 8 in this re-vote.
We appreciate that our views put us at odds with the formal position of Council. However, we believe that we have an obligation to you, our members, to be open and honest in our views and to act to safeguard your interests.
However, whatever your decision on the merits of Motion 8, we would urge you to make sure you vote. Please be part of the decision-making process, rather than letting others decide for you.
We should also note that we are aware that some of the ballot papers sent out by National Office have errors on them (e.g. the wrong names or people who are eligible to vote omitted). Please check your ballot paper carefully and, if it is wrong, please contact Peter Jackson at National Office (peter.jackson@ctc.org.uk) to get a corrected ballot paper.
For further information on our objections, please see the Save the CTC web-site: www.savethectc.org.uk
Kind regards
Helen Vecht and Gregory Price
CTC National Councillors for London
John Meudell
CTC National Councillor for the South East
Monday, December 06, 2010
Uncharitable Debate - VOTE
Dear AllBy now you should have received with your December/January issue of Cycle magazine a yellow voting paper and Freepost envelope. This is to give you another opportunity to vote on the controversial and divisive proposal to change the constitution of the CTC and convert it into a full Charitable Trust.
Because of the way that the CTC tried to bludgeon through its proposal and its handling of voting procedures at the AGM in May 2010, a petition signed by some 600 members has forced the Chief Executive and National Council to undertake a poll of the whole Club on the contested proposal (Motion 8).
The CTC was required to publish the Petition in Cycle magazine. I was offered a telephone interview with the magazine to state my case, but only on its terms, which were unacceptable to me.
I therefore submitted to the Editor a brief statement, giving reasons to oppose the proposal, consisting of 11 bullet points. You will see a heavily edited version of this statement on page 8 of the magazine. Of the 11 points, three were unchanged, three edited and five censored. The CTC's electronic newsletter, CycleClips, is being used heavily to promote only the arguments in favour of the proposal. Hardly balanced.
You can see the full, unexpurgated version of my Statement, as well as much else, on the savethectc (click on link) website under News and 'read more'. Click also on the other links on the left for much more information.
You will know that our DA Committee decided that the proposal was not in the best interests of members. It opposed the proposal and recommended voting against the motion.
Remember, if the Club converts to full charitable status, our elected National Councillors would become trustees of the charity and obliged to put the interests of the charity and its duty of 'public benefit' before the interests of members. The two are not necessarily the same. What do you pay your sub for?
Unfortunately, this vote is not under the auspices of Electoral Reform Services, but now is your chance to vote again. You know my views, but please make up your own mind. Put an indelible X in the appropriate box (not a tick) and make sure that your details are correct. If they are wrong, get a correct version. There is no lower age limit, so if your great grand-daughter is a family member, she has a vote! I wonder how many toddlers will exercise their independent, democratic right to influence the future of the CTC.
Whatever you think, please vote.
Don't be a Sheep, be a Lion.
Grrr!
Jeff
Wednesday, June 30, 2010
Les Warner
Tuesday, May 18, 2010
Outcome of Charity Status Vote - CTC AGM, 15 May 2010
Jeff
Tuesday, April 13, 2010
ATTENTION PLEASE
Terry
Thursday, April 01, 2010
Message from our CTC Councillors for Greater London
Below is a message from Greg Price and Helen Vecht, our CTC Councillors for Greater London. In it they give their views on the proposal to turn the CTC into a Charitable Trust. They state their own reasons for rejecting the proposal and recommend that members vote against the 3 motions numbered 8, 9 and 10 on the voting form which comes with the current issue of Cycle Magazine.
Please make sure that you use your vote. You will not have another chance.
Jeff
A message from your CTC Councillors for London
Hello everyone
Over the next few days, the April-May copy of Cycle will be dropping on to your doormat. Along with the magazine will be the agenda for CTC’s Annual General Meeting (AGM) on 15 May, together with a proxy voting form. It is the AGM, and certain motions before that meeting, that we are writing to you about.
At the AGM on 15 May, Council will be asking members to agree to changes in the status of the CTC – these changes will have significant and far reaching implications for the membership and for the future of the organisation. Council wants members to authorise it to change the Club, the organisation that has existed as a membership company for over 130 years, into a charity and to merge it with the CTC Trust.
You may have noticed over the few months that there have been a lot of positive messages put out about the proposals – for example the new issue of Cycle which accompanies the AGM agenda and proxy voting paper has a pro-change article on pages 6 and 7, and subtle (and some less subtle) hints have been appearing in the weekly CTC email newsletter. There has been a ‘hard sell’ going on and, although a previous issue of Cycle had an opposing view eloquently put by Simon Legg (a former Councillor), those who may oppose the proposals have been denied full access to the resources being deployed by Council and National Office to persuade you to vote in favour.
For Council’s decision to put these proposals to the membership was not unanimous, and as more information about the possible implications for members and member groups has emerged, a number Councillors have become uneasy about the direction Council and National Office are trying to take the Club in. We are two of these Councillors and, despite a number of unfortunate attacks on the personal integrity of those councillors and former councillors who do not support the proposals, we have made our views known publicly as we believe that is what you, the members, would want.
We oppose the proposals being put forward by Council as we are of the firm opinion that they are not in the best interests of the members, the member groups or the Club. Making the CTC a charity will not restore control of the Club and the trust to members – indeed it will have the opposite effect.
Under charity law, Councillors (who would also be trustees) would have to put the wider public interest and the interests of the organisations before the concerns of members or member groups. No amount of spin or fine words from those supporting these proposals can change this simple fact. And the members of other organisations, such as the Youth Hostelling Association, have found to their cost that the lure of supposed tax breaks doesn’t make up for losing control of your club.
There is also the issue of Club and Trust finances. These are far from transparent but it is clear that the Club is pumping in large amounts of members’ money to ensure that the Trust is able to balance its books - £453,051 in the last financial year alone. This is addition to the £407,000 paid by the Club for services provided to it by the Trust.
Council and National Office have assured the membership that the finances are in fine fettle, and they have made much about offering a meeting on the accounts to those with concerns. But we have to report that this meeting was far from successful. National Office and Council were not able to adequately explain the finances and the figures they were putting forward as supporting the proposal to change the Club to a charity did not stand up to scrutiny. These are not just our views – but those of an expert accountant who was at that meeting.
Council has tried to suggest that those who are opposing the changes are doing so for nefarious reasons. This is not the case. Those who have concerns over the proposals (us included) simply believe that there is a better way forward for CTC and that, with proper governance and clearer accountability, the present structure can be made to work properly and in the best interests of members.
We would urge all members to consider the proposals very carefully. Look at all the information that is available and take care to look behind the spins and rhetoric. You might also find it useful to look at the discussions on the CTC’s forums (http://forum.ctc.org.uk) or the information available on the Save the CTC web-site (http://www.savethectc.org.uk).
Please bear in mind that the changes being proposed by Council – if agreed and enacted – will be irreversible. You are being asked to take a step that will not only affect you and your family, but future generations of CTC members.
Our personal recommendation to members is that they should vote against Motions 8, 9 and 10 at this year’s AGM.
But whatever you do, and whichever way you decide to vote, please ensure that you do vote in this AGM. If you are unable to attend the AGM itself in Loughborough on 15 May, please use your proxy vote. If you haven’t received a form you can ask for one from National Office.
This is your club and your chance to have a say in its future! Please make sure you vote.
If you have any questions please do not hesitate to contact us. Greg’s e-mail is greg.price@ctc.org.uk and his telephone number is 07986 217852 . Helen’s e-mail is helen.vecht@ctc.org.uk
Kind regards
Greg Price and Helen Vecht
CTC Councillors for Greater
